Electric Meters on Seasonal Sites

After a lot of electrical supply issues last year, we have decided to install electric meters on all seasonal sites.  This has caused a great deal of distress and confusion for many seasonal campers.

We realize that it is new and different from the way we had charged a flat rate for electricity in the past.  It may take a while for us to get all the dents banged out of the new plan.  We are also confident that, at the end of the season, you will find that you are paying only for the electricity you actually use.  We used to have to calculate how much electricity all of the campers used in a season and then average it out according to the amps on the site.

 

Using Meters Makes it Fairer for All Levels of Power Useage

Obviously, some people are only here on the weekends, or for only a week once a month, while others stay for the entire season.  Some people like to use electric heaters at the beginning and end of the season, and some people run their air conditioners all summer long. Some people are very frugal in their use of electricity while others don’t concern themselves with shutting off unnecessary electrical units because it doesn’t cost them any extra (for instance, running the air conditioner non-stop while they are not at camp for the whole week). So, the flat rate is not fair to those who are conservative with their electrical usage.

 

We also realize that many campers buy a trailer to put on a site for the season and use it as a summer home.  Because they are always plugged into “shore power” they don’t have much understanding of how their camper’s power consumption works.

 

We have had complaints that the meter is still spinning even though the camper believes that all things have been turned off in the RV.  Even though you have shut off all things you believe draw power, there are still many drains on the system.

 

There are two systems in a camper.

One is the battery or DC system.  Things like your lights and onboard gas leak detectors, will always run on DC.  To provide that power, you have a converter which is basically a battery charger.  It “converts” the AC current into DC current to keep your batteries topped off and can also provide DC power for your DC equipment.

 

You also have an AC system which runs things like your microwave, refrigerator and hot water heater.

 

You most likely can run your refrigerator on “automatic” which means if AC electric is available it will use that rather than propane.  Or you can switch the refrigerator to run only on propane.  Sounds great, right?  If you put the refrigerator on gas only, then it shouldn’t make the meter turn.  Well, not really…   The refrigerator still needs the DC current to run the panel that determines when it needs cooling, and to power the “sparker ignition” to light the propane when called for.  So, it will draw power from your battery and thus call for the converter to draw electricity through the meter.

 

Your hot water heater can also run on either electricity or propane.  So, you put the hot water heater on propane only and expect the meter not to turn.  Again, it requires some battery to run the controls and the sparker ignition to light the propane.  Again, it causes the converter to draw electricity through the meter.

 

So sure, you can reduce electricity usage by using your propane, but you won’t eliminate it entirely.  (And, you will trade electric cost for propane cost.)  Just like in your home there are parasitic drains on your electricity.

 

If you are concerned that your meter still turns after you have shut off all of your electrical appliances, consider the parasitic draw.

  1. Don’t just turn off the appliances, unplug them.
  2. Disconnect the battery (usually there is a battery disconnect switch)
  3. Once you are sure there is no parasitic load, then check the meter.
  4. Turn on one item at a time – plug in each appliance and turn it on(turn on the tv, run the microwave, turn on your coffeemaker, etc.) and each time watch your meter to see how rapidly your meter is turning. This will give you a sense of what draws a small amount of power and what is really drawing a lot. You won’t be surprised that your microwave soaks it up, but you might not realize how much power it takes to run your electric kettle. Of course, it is entirely your choice what you decide to run and for how long – we just want you to understand what is making your meter run, so you feel you have control over it.

Please contact us at the office if you have questions or need help in understanding your meter.

There is a lot of good information on the internet about determining how much power your camper will use and how to minimize it.  Below are some links to excellent information which will help you to understand how to reduce your electric usage. Some of it relates to determining how much generator you would need or how much solar power to provide your electrical needs, but it will help you to understand where your camper uses power.

https://blog.gorving.com/2016/10/not-another-dead-rv-battery/

 

electric meters and parasitic drain

https://www.technomadia.com/2014/12/solar-planning-conducting-an-rv-electrical-consumption-audit/

RV electric meters consumption audit

 

 

Typical RV Power Consumption Items

 

Does a Wild Bear Poop in the Woods?

Camping Toilet

We’re pretty sure a wild bear does poop in the woods.

Camping toilet does a wild bear poop in the woodsWe’re also really sure he doesn’t leave a wad of toilet paper on top of it.

There are a lot of people who are new to camping who may not be fully prepared for the experience.  You get a notion to try camping, go down to the local WallyWorld and pick up a tent and a couple of sleeping bags, and head off to the campground.

People who camp with a RV generally have their own bathroom built in.  If you haven’t done much camping, you may not have your own potty.

You may not be thinking about your bathroom options in the woods.

The usual thing for a ‘tenter’ is to request a campsite that is close to a bath house so you have easy access to flush toilets.  Getting up in the middle of the night and not having a bath house nearby can be disappointing.  We understand why there may be some “emergency” where you might want to just have a quick “go” in the bushes, but please don’t!  It may seem that it’s only the woods, but the next camper to use that site may not appreciate several piles of poop in the woods.  Someone has to clean the site after you are done with it and they certainly do not want to pick wads of dirty toilet paper out of the bushes.

What to do, then?  (And where to do it?)

The first option would be to camp near a bath house

that is close enough that you won’t mind walking to it in the middle of the night.  This may be more difficult if you are camping with children.

If you are thinking you could just poop in the woods, then please consider bringing a portable toilet.

Even something basic, like a bucket lined with a plastic bag and some kitty litter or wood shavings is better than nothing.

There is a toilet seat contraption that you can get at WalMart or Dick’s Sporting Goods or Cabella’s, etc. that fits on the top of a 5 gallon plastic bucket.  It’s called a “Luggable Loo”.  Get a 5 gallon plastic bucket (our favorite is the Home Depot bucket that says “Let’s Do This”!) and some plastic bags to line the bucket with. If you unhook the bucket handle on one side, you can slide a roll of toilet paper on it and clip the handle back on.  Please use plastic liners, wrap your waste carefully and dispose of it in the dumpster.   Eeeww! you might think, but where would you put baby diapers?  Or adult diapers?   Or bags of doggy-do?

There are other, more sophisticated camping toilet options that have a holding tank.  These have an upper tank for flush water and a lower holding tank that you add deodorizer to.  You can dump the tank in one of our dump stations, or in a toilet.

Consider where to put the potty for convenience and privacy.  You might be okay with having it in a corner of the tent, but there are special privacy tents made for either changing clothes or portable toilet use.  Or, you might have a small tent dedicated to bathroom use.

Having a portable camping toilet and a tent to put it in can make a great difference in comfort and convenience while you are camping.

Sometimes people are put off camping because they are not prepared and spend a couple of days without the comforts they are used to.

But what if you are just starting out camping and don’t want to spend all kinds of money on gear if you may not like camping?

We understand.  You don’t want to buy a lot of equipment that you may never use again.  And that porta-potty is going to look splendid at your next yard sale.  Not.  So what then?

If you don’t have a portable camping toilet, then PLEASE let us know that you want to be near a bath house, and we will try our best to hook you up with a site that is very close to a bath house.

And PLEASE, leave the pooping-in-the-woods to the bears.

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